[Advisory] Draft program for the Berlin 13 Open Access Conference on 21/22 March 2017
Virginia Barbour, Executive Director, AOASG
aoasg.eo at gmail.com
Tue Dec 6 04:45:41 CET 2016
Dear all,
Greetings from a hot and humid Brisbane! I'm also very pleased to be part
of this group.
I support the idea of having a diversity of opinions and very importantly
having examples of speakers from initiatives that have succeeded and would
prefer this over theoretical discussion if time is limited. I presume
SCOAP3 was discussed last year, other wise that is an obvious example.
Knowledge Unlatched is another possibility.
>From the perspective of Australia and New Zealand I will say that there is
still a lot of concern over the flipped model for two main reasons;
- it perpetuates the dominance of large publishers
- there is no guarantee that it will lower costs. Though I do note that
SCOAP3 has been very effective in lowering effective APCS, what we see
elsewhere is APCs that are out of control - especially for hybrid journals.
In Australia and New Zealand we are very susceptible to currency
fluctuation, which magnifies the problem - in any given year it's not
uncommon for it to affect purchasing power by 10-25%
Personally, I tend to be a bit more optimistic but I know that for many of
the people I represent these are very large concerns. This is one reason
why there are no Australian or New Zealand signatories to OA2020.
What I think we have to be supporting as a future, and therefore ideally
focusing on at this meeting, is a move away from a single model as
currently represented as the subscription model we still largely have now
to a landscape that includes a diversity of (flipped) models. Hence for day
2 in the Concepts session, we should go for as many lightning (5-10 min)
talks as we can fit in. I am not sure I do think we should have
participants from large publishers as they can tend to dominate the
discussions.
For the National Contact Points on day 1 I would also hope (selfishly,
perhaps!) we can still include those who are likely to be observing OA2020
rather than signing up - which is likely to include Australasia for a while
at least.
All the best
Ginny
Dr Virginia Barbour
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On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Katrine Weisteen Bjerde <
k.w.bjerde at cristin.no> wrote:
> Dear all
>
> I support Jeff's view.
> To make myself more clear than in my previous e-mail:
> Although I also worry about how to support smaller OA publishers and
> alternative models, I do believe it is important in this conference to
> focus on the offsetting/flipping process.
> We will have a really hard time moving to OA if we do not manage to at
> least flip the majority of publishers.
> Also, if we manage to implement the flipping process in a good way, I
> believe the cost reduction process outlined in Jeff's articles can come
> true.
> I also believe that it is possible to implement flipping agreements in a
> "wrong" way that does give the publishers either the same or even increased
> market power.
> The focal point of this conference should therefore in my view continue to
> be on the fact that flipping is possible, working out what "good" flipping
> agreements looks like and on how we can get more institutions to agree so
> that we achieve critical mass.
>
> In order not to forget these other issues, I suggest we put them on the
> roadmap in a list of "themes for future discussion" in meetings of NPCs.
>
> Best regards
> Katrine
>
> P.S.: To all of you: Being part of this group not only lets me contribute
> to the agenda of the conference. All your comments and your links to
> articles are also fed into the ongoing process of establishing National
> Guidelines in Norway for Open Access!
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jeffrey Mackie-Mason [mailto:jmmason at berkeley.edu]
> >Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2016 4:29 AM
> >To: Katrine Weisteen Bjerde
> >Cc: Ralf Schimmer; Ivy Anderson; Reckling, Falk; advisory at oa2020.org
> >Subject: Re: [Advisory] Draft program for the Berlin 13 Open Access
> >Conference on 21/22 March 2017
> >
> >Hello all. I'm glad to be part of this group.
> >
> >On the discussion of sessions on alternative initiatives / small or
> society
> >journal models: Clearly there is a desire for some attention to this.
> But may I
> >remind us all that the core OA2020 intention is to get the majority of
> journal
> >publishing to flip very soon (er, 2020)...and to do that, it is essential
> that the
> >large publishers flip. And so I speak up for not letting the program get
> *too*
> >diluted from the core mission, or this risks becoming merely Yet Another
> >Open Access Conference.
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >---
> >Jeff MacKie-Mason
> >University Librarian
> >Chief Digital Scholarship Officer
> >Professor, School of Information and Professor of Economics UC Berkeley
> >www.jeff-mason.com
> >
> >"Your job as a citizen and as a decent human being is to constantly
> affirm and
> >lift up and fight for treating people with kindness and respect and
> >understanding." Barack Obama to daughters Malia and Sasha
> >
> >On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Katrine Weisteen Bjerde
> ><k.w.bjerde at cristin.no> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Ralf and all
> >
> > My comments would go in the same direction.
> > Good program.
> > Important to not only focus on the big publishers, but also look at
> >how to support other initiatives. I am a bit worried to see OA newcomers
> >being bought by the big ones. (Co-action publishing bought by T&F). On the
> >other hand, these questions can be picked up in the roadmap discussions.
> >
> > Regards
> > Katrine (also on mobile)
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Advisory [advisory-bounces at oa2020.org] on behalf of Ralf
> >Schimmer [Schimmer at mpdl.mpg.de]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:58 PM
> > To: Ivy Anderson; Reckling, Falk; advisory at oa2020.org
> > Subject: Re: [Advisory] Draft program for the Berlin 13 Open Access
> >Conference on 21/22 March 2017
> >
> > Dear Falk and Ivy,
> >
> > thank you very much for this first feedback and your suggestions. I
> >just want to confirm that such broader approach is already on our mind.
> >That’s why we suggest to have 2 sessions on “Concepts of Transformation”
> so
> >that we can accommodate also pathways beyond the big commercial
> >publishers. We will get back to this when we discuss potential
> presenters. If
> >you want to suggest names of individuals or initiatives, in addition to
> whom
> >Falk already mentioned, please let us know.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Ralf
> >
> >
> > Von: Advisory [mailto:advisory-bounces at oa2020.org
> ><mailto:advisory-bounces at oa2020.org> ] Im Auftrag von Ivy Anderson
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 14:10
> > An: Reckling, Falk; advisory at oa2020.org
> > Betreff: Re: [Advisory] Draft program for the Berlin 13 Open Access
> >Conference on 21/22 March 2017
> >
> > Dear Ralf and All,
> >
> > I would just like to join in support of Falk’s suggestion of a
> session on
> >alternative initiatives – I think it would be good to give voice to these
> efforts
> >as part of the overall transformational framework of OA2020. I assume
> this is
> >a recommendation for day 2 of the meeting.
> >
> > I look forward to further discussions –
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Ivy
> >
> > Ivy Anderson
> > Associate Executive Director & Director of Collections
> > California Digital Library
> > University of California, Office of the President
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> ><mailto:ivy.anderson at ucop.edu> >
> >
> > From: Advisory [mailto:advisory-bounces at oa2020.org
> ><mailto:advisory-bounces at oa2020.org> ] On Behalf Of Reckling, Falk
> > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 12:29 AM
> > To: advisory at oa2020.org<mailto:advisory at oa2020.org
> ><mailto:advisory at oa2020.org> >
> > Subject: Re: [Advisory] Draft program for the Berlin 13 Open Access
> >Conference on 21/22 March 2017
> >
> > Dear All,
> > I'm very happy to work with you on that very important initiative.
> >
> > I find the proposed programme well thought out. But I have one
> >suggestion:
> >
> > For very good reasons, OA2020 concentrates on OA deals with
> >publishers, esp. big publishers. However, as an outlook, I suggest to
> reserve
> >a small slot for an impulse presentation at the end of the conference for
> the
> >following topic: „How to organise and fund Open Access publication models
> >and services beyond big commercial providers“.
> > I think, for example, of ideas, reports or initiatives like
> Squaring
> >Circles<http://cameronneylon.net/blog/squaring-circles-the-economics-
> >and-governance-of-scholarly-infrastructures/
> ><http://cameronneylon.net/blog/squaring-circles-the-economics-and-
> >governance-of-scholarly-infrastructures/> > (Cameron Neylon), Putting
> down
> >roots<http://knowledge-exchange.info/event/oa-dependencies
> ><http://knowledge-exchange.info/event/oa-dependencies> > (Knowledge
> >Exchange) or http://openaccessnetwork.org/
> >
> > Best Falk
> >
> > ___________________________________
> > Falk Reckling, PhD
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> > Strategy – Policy, Evaluation, Analysis
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> >
> >
> >
> > Von: Advisory [mailto:advisory-bounces at oa2020.org
> ><mailto:advisory-bounces at oa2020.org> ] Im Auftrag von Ralf Schimmer
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 25. November 2016 18:47
> > An: advisory at oa2020.org<mailto:advisory at oa2020.org
> ><mailto:advisory at oa2020.org> >
> >
> > Betreff: [Advisory] Draft program for the Berlin 13 Open Access
> >Conference on 21/22 March 2017
> >
> > Dear members of the B13 Advisory Board,
> >
> > first of all, we would like to thank everyone of you for your
> >willingness to become a member of the Advisory Board of the Berlin 13 Open
> >Access Conference. We are convinced that with your support the program of
> >Berlin 13 will fulfill everybody’s expectations and the conference will
> turn
> >out to be an informative and constructive exchange.
> >
> > Attached to this email, please find a text description of B13 plus
> a
> >draft program. At this point in time, we would like to discuss with you
> only
> >the description, the structure and perhaps the time allocation of the
> >conference. As we would like to put this up on the conference homepage,
> >we would like to receive your feedback by December 7.
> >
> > We do already have some speakers in mind; but, generally, we would
> >like to discuss speakers, moderators and additional details as a next
> step. For
> >this, we will again provide a basis for discussion.
> >
> > As this advisory board is composed of people from a maximum
> >variation of time zones we will try to avoid virtual meetings as much as
> we
> >can. Ideally, we want to base our discussion on emails via this listserv
> plus
> >perhaps a few individual or small group phone calls All in all, we don’t
> want
> >to take too much of your time but still try to be inclusive and
> efficient. In any
> >case, your ideas and suggestions are welcome at any time.
> >
> > For your first review it may be helpful to have some additional
> >background information:
> >
> > In the context of Berlin 12 the idea was discussed to build up a
> >network of national contact points for OA2020, similar to the NCP network
> of
> >SCOAP³. Hereby an inspired network capable of acting shall emerge to
> >coordinate, push and promote the necessary next steps for a successful
> >transformation to Gold Open Access in the countries concerned. The
> >cooperation in the NCP network shall support the regular exchange of
> >experience and shall channel and facilitate mutual assistance.
> >
> > On this basis, our wish for Berlin 13 is the further strengthening
> of
> >such a network integrating interested colleagues from as many countries as
> >possible. We are aware that in most of the countries further steps are to
> be
> >taken to obtain a somewhat ‘official’ mandate as NCP by the national
> science
> >system. Especially for this reason we consider a close cooperation among
> the
> >proponents and supporters of our emerging NCP network to be helpful and
> >necessary.
> >
> > Berlin 13 offers a good opportunity for those who are interested in
> >supporting OA2020 and volunteering as NCPs to get to know each other
> >better and to improve the trust-based relationship. In order to give this
> the
> >room it requires, we propose the first day of the conference to be
> restricted
> >to the intended audience and to conclude the day with a joint dinner (plus
> >perhaps a small social activity).
> >
> > The second day, on the other hand, will be organized as an open
> >forum for everyone who is interested in OA2020, including e.g. non-science
> >organizations, political representatives and publishers. The program for
> this
> >day will begin with a status report on OA2020. Then various concepts of
> >transformation will be presented and discussed, statements of
> >representatives from several countries and organizations shall round up
> the
> >program.
> >
> > At the end of day two, we plan to have a closed wrap-up session for
> >one hour with a small working party of NCPs, which we hope to establish on
> >day one. This working party could be the starting point of a broader
> >governance structure that could emerge over time.
> >
> >
> > Again, we are grateful for your support in preparing Berlin 13,
> and we
> >look forward to your feedback on our program ideas.
> >
> > With best regards,
> > Ralf Schimmer
> >
> > P.S.: I also re-circulate the member list of this Advisory Board –
> with
> >Falk Reckling and Georg Botz as additional entries.
> >
> >
> >
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